Join cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer as they talk about survivor leadership, survivor centered programs, and things that make them angry. Jessyca and Rachel pull the thread all the way through and highlight how exploitive common practices to include survivors can be, and talk about some things that can be shifted so that the answer to the question “Is it really survivor centered?” can be yes.
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Cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer begin to unravel what happens when intention doesn’t consider impact or listen to the folks that are “being served.” In true form, Jessyca and Rachel pull the thread back to the messages that are sent through actions and the way things are done. Their conversation also brings up transactional relationships, healing and repair, worthiness, parenting, consent, and how programs are operated. VanderPointe cohosts challenge us to think about the messages we are sending, and to listen to those who are impacted by what we do.
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Episode Twelve
Cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer are joined by Aubrey Dinslage for an encore episode that you do not want to miss. Aubrey gets real about what needs to happen next, and reminds us that humanity has capacity for so much more than the mess we are in. Aubrey talks openly about the privileges they hold as a white trans person, reflects on issues of representation, and how performative action leads right back to exploitation. Jessyca and Rachel are so grateful for Aubrey joining us on this journey, and being so open about their own perspective and experience.
Please join The VanderPointe cohosts in thanking Aubrey for their presence and conversation!
About special guest, Aubrey Dinslage:
Aubrey Dinslage has worked in the anti-exploitation field for four years. They’re ideology and politics are deeply rooted in their identities as a queer and trans person. When they aren’t working to dismantle capitalism, Aubrey spends their time with their amazing puppy River. Aubrey is currently raising funds to cover costs of top surgery and recovery, which is scheduled in coming months. Aubrey would appreciate any support in this endeavor.
Cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer welcome back special guest Aubrey Dinslage for part two of a blunt conversation about white supremacy, patriarchy, capitalism, and what all of this has to do with anti-trafficking work. Aubrey shares their perspective on personal growth, relationships, showing up in their community differently, and what that has to do with working with folks who have experienced trafficking. Jessyca, Rachel, and Aubrey have that conversation about coercion and exploitation within nonprofits, representation as a historically excluded or marginalized person, accountability, locker-room talk, and gendering conversation styles.
The VanderPointe team has enjoyed Aubrey’s contribution to the podcast so much that they will be back for an encore next week! Don’t miss an episode, find us on your favorite podcast listening app and subscribe!
About special guest, Aubrey Dinslage:
Aubrey Dinslage has worked in the anti-exploitation field for four years. They’re ideology and politics are deeply rooted in their identities as a queer and trans person. When they aren’t working to dismantle capitalism, Aubrey spends their time with their amazing puppy River. Aubrey is currently raising funds to cover costs of top surgery and recovery, which is scheduled in coming months. Aubrey would appreciate any support in this endeavor.
Aubrey Dinslage has worked in the anti-exploitation field for four years. They’re ideology and politics are deeply rooted in their identities as a queer and trans person. When they aren’t working to dismantle capitalism, Aubrey spends their time with their amazing puppy River. Aubrey is currently raising funds to cover costs of top surgery and recovery, which is scheduled in coming month. Aubrey would appreciate any support in this endeavor.
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Milestone episode, episode ten:
Cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer welcome special guest Aubrey Dinslage for part one of a blunt conversation about white supremacy, patriarchy, capitalism, and what all of this has to do with anti-trafficking work. Aubrey shares their perspective on how white supremacy and the patriarchy show up in the work they do with young adults who have experienced trafficking, and the frustrations of having to work within protective systems that exploit instead of support healing. Discomfort is what moves people to change, and this episode connects dots that may make people uncomfortable. Jessyca, Rachel, and Aubrey talk about consent and conflict and how this is related. They wrap up part one of their conversation by engaging in a spirited discussion about the way self-care is advertised.
Join us next week for part two of this very important conversation.
Cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer dive deeper into white saviorism and reflect on next steps. Speaking from their experiences as white women in helping professions, Jessyca and Rachel openly share their advice and perspective for those who are looking to begin or change their own journey in anti-trafficking.
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Join cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer as they reflect on what defensiveness is all about, heroism in anti-trafficking work, and how saviorism offers a narrative that excuses from responsibility. Jessyca and Rachel reflect on how this all ties together and feeds a specific narrative, and how critical it is to engage in conversation as white women in the helping field.
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Cohosts Jessyca Vandercoy and Rachel Pointer pause their conversation about white saviorism to take moment to chat about being measured on niceness and productivity in jobs.
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